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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Islamicelt » 30 Nov 2011, 20:43

I do have to say that the most recent Apocalypse threat, as ridiculous as it was, still had my heart beating a little faster than normal right around the time that it was supposed to happen. Some pastor from somewhere-or-other said that the word was supposed to end at exactly 6:00pm a few months ago (I forgot which day) and at about 5:58, I found myself actually wondering "wow....what if he's right?...." The best part was right at 6, I looked outside the window at my work and saw a sweater laying on the ground and a bunch of people walking around and I thought "well there must have been one good Christian in Madison" :D

Even though I roll my eyes at the 2012 nonsense and even when I took a Meso-American Anthropology class at my University and learned what 2012 is and what a baktun is and this and that, I still will probably be praying more than normal on December 20th :p
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Corwen » 30 Nov 2011, 20:51

It is however the RoadyPocalypse in 2012, at 12 minutes past midnight on the 12th December, 12:12 12/12/12 :D
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Canu Taliesin » 06 Dec 2011, 12:49

Thankfully, the Mayan Calender doesn't end on 21.12.2012, that's a popular misinterpretation. I think their point is that we are in many ways already living through what could be called an apocalypse. I don't know if anybody noticed, but many scientists (bearded and otherwise) are stating we are living through the 6th largest extinction ever to take place on the planet. If you consider the animal and plant kingdoms to be our brothers and sisters as many of us do, then I think that qualifies. The continual, suicidal destruction of the biosphere and the inability of the powers that be to stop that justifies what the Mayans are calling the end of one cycle and the beginning of another. There is nothing mysterious in that.
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby DJ Droood » 06 Dec 2011, 14:08

Thankfully, the Mayan Calender doesn't end on 21.12.2012, that's a popular misinterpretation.
No, that conception seems to be accurate, at least if you can trust the Wiki articles:

According to the Popol Vuh, a book compiling details of creation accounts known to the K'iche' Maya of the Colonial-era highlands, we are living in the fourth world.[29] The Popol Vuh describes the first three creations that the gods failed in making and the creation of the successful fourth world where men were placed. In the Maya Long Count, the previous creation ended at the start of a 14th b'ak'tun.

The previous creation ended on a long count of 12.19.19.17.19. Another 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, followed by the start of the 14th b'ak'tun, 13.0.0.0.0, on December 21, 2012.
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The idea that the world may end on that date, though, is probably just New Age misconception....I mean, the recently discovered Tortuguero inscription that claims Bolon Yokte, a Mayan god associated with war and creation, will "descend from the sky" at that time, is probably not being seen in context....plus, maybe Bolon Yokte has changed....mellowed.... :anx:
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Canu Taliesin » 06 Dec 2011, 14:42

No, I think I got that right. The Calender doesn't end, neither does the world end, it's just that the cycle it describes comes to an end, and another begins.
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby DJ Droood » 06 Dec 2011, 15:07

The Calender doesn't end, neither does the world end
That is the type of optimism we will need in the 2012 Times.

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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Merlyn » 06 Dec 2011, 15:52

The Calendar doesn't end, neither does the world end, it's just that the cycle it describes comes to an end, and another begins
I see by the progression that a great deal of change is in synchronism with the Mayan calendar. It would take a bit of comparison, given the span of time. I see it as a progression of positive change. And we Drui know full well that change in a positive way comes from tearing down the old ways into the new. Understandably there is fear and the grips of fear have defeated positive change many times. The key to the Mayan calendar is the time within the progression of times.

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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Twyrch » 09 Dec 2011, 13:21

I just can't shake the feeling that some religious wacko nutjob zealot (of any religion) will try to take matters into their own hands and try to bring about the Apocalypse, thus creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Merlyn » 09 Dec 2011, 15:08

This crystal skulls will all appear and commune to give us the knowledge of the ages from alien beings :o
Or...not... :-)

Now, if Jesus comes, the best I can do is be hospitable and humble. I really have no idea if that could be a part of the Mayan calendar :whistle:
Then of course there is an asteroid, or some other grand planetary alignment, I have my space arch ready with two of each animal (I'm leaving the humans behind for the sake of the universe) :D
We also have a new hover craft in case the earth flips polarity and I need to get off the earth for a spell. A few hundred cans of beans and rice aboard! :hug:
If none of the above happens, I do have a large walk-in underground shelter stocked with beer! :idea:
Never know if some country will try to blow the earth up.... :duck:

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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby coldcell » 09 Dec 2011, 23:04

Just in case anyone really is worried...

http://soul2soultreasures.com/mayan_cloak/
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby D'Arzhur » 09 Dec 2011, 23:44

Just in case anyone really is worried...

http://soul2soultreasures.com/mayan_cloak/
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby DJ Droood » 10 Dec 2011, 00:51

Just in case anyone really is worried...

http://soul2soultreasures.com/mayan_cloak/
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Let's hope Bolon Yokte has a sense of humour...

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Re: End of days in 2012?

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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Merlyn » 10 Dec 2011, 15:53

These are a certain frequency range occurance of the One energy (Zero Point Energy/consciousness) that is decending upon man. Bolon Yokte is Scalar Wave Potentiality. Reality is being compressed into our (scalar) waves of potentiality (focus, think the portal inside of the DNA, the 2 strands are the potential high & low frequency & the middle is your experience) by way of the Fibonacci cycle of compression/expansion.

The Christ (a perfectly chrystalized torsion field of perfect geometry/aura which allows for the free flow at speeds faster than light of Zero Point Energy) is coming as all of us… our consciousness is chrystalizing to enable it to hold the higher resonances of consciousness required to become out light bodies. This has happened before and will happen again, but it has been extremely long since it has happened like this! Just wait… as the days pass the compression will exponentially increase until we are compressed into the eye of the needle, the eye of God, the Black hole of conssciousness which flips polarities… the point of energetic orgasm of consciousness experience.
I did foregt to mention the DNA thing... We could all transform into another state of being, so I have written everything down and put it all in a time capsule for future life some billion years from now.. :wink: Could be the planet of the apes, that is if the comming of the Bolon Yokte fails to come. :where:
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Karl » 10 Dec 2011, 16:06

What was that old 80's film called? It was a sci-fi one where the Earth was destroyed somehow and everyone and everything was transported off to find another planet. all the animals on one, all the trees/plants on another and all the humans on a third. Then it turns out they 'don't need' the plant ship and it gets sent off into the void. Manned only by one hairy guy and a couple of droids. I always thought that'd be the best job ever, limitless Nature and no humans! Just can't remember the name of the film...
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby DJ Droood » 10 Dec 2011, 16:22

What was that old 80's film called? It was a sci-fi one where the Earth was destroyed somehow and everyone and everything was transported off to find another planet. all the animals on one, all the trees/plants on another and all the humans on a third. Then it turns out they 'don't need' the plant ship and it gets sent off into the void. Manned only by one hairy guy and a couple of droids. I always thought that'd be the best job ever, limitless Nature and no humans! Just can't remember the name of the film...

Sounds like a classic!....and now we have Kepler 22b
NASA has spied the best candidate yet for a life-bearing world beyond our solar system in the newly discovered planet Kepler-22b. It has given all hope to intensify the search for our neighbours in the universe.

Bill Borucki, Kepler’s lead scientist, said, “If it has a surface, it ought to have a nice temperature.”

Natalie Batahla, the Kepler deputy science chief, said, “It’s right in the middle of the habitable zone. The other exciting thing is that it orbits a star very, very similar to our own sun. It’s so exciting to imagine the possibilities.”
http://nvonews.com/2011/12/10/is-the-ne ... per-earth/


Perhaps the Cosmic Mood Swing many of us feel is a combination of things....the CERN `speed of light` experiments...a huge, earth-like planet suddenly within reach...maybe we are at a nexus point...a pending Epochalypse...

I wonder if Kepler 22b will be filled with pesky Na'vi.
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby DJ Droood » 11 Dec 2011, 16:12

a ray of hope...
PALENQUE, Mexico (Reuters) - If you are worried the world will end next year based on the Mayan calendar, relax: the end of time is still far off.

So say Mayan experts who want to dispel any belief that the ancient Mayans predicted a world apocalypse next year.

The Mayan calendar marks the end of a 5,126 year old cycle around December 21, 2012, which should bring the return of Bolon Yokte, a Mayan god associated with war and creation.

Author Jose Arguelles called the date "the ending of time as we know it" in a 1987 book that spawned an army of Mayan theorists, whose speculations on a cataclysmic end abound online. But specialists meeting at this ancient Mayan city in southern Mexico say it merely marks the termination of one period of creation and the beginning of another.

"We have to be clear about this. There is no prophecy for 2012," said Erik Velasquez, an etchings specialist at the the National Autonomous University of Mexico (UNAM). "It's a marketing fallacy."

The National Institute of Anthropological History in Mexico has been trying to quell the barrage of forecasters predicting the apocalypse. "The West's messianic thinking has distorted the world view of ancient civilizations like the Mayans," the institute said in a statement.

In the Mayan calendar, the long calendar count begins in 3,114 BC and is divided into roughly 394-year periods called Baktuns. Mayans held the number 13 sacred and the 13th Baktun ends next year.

Sven Gronemeyer, a researcher of Mayan codes from La Trobe University in Australia, who has been trying to decode the calendar, said the so-called end day reflects a transition from one era to the next in which Bolon Yokte returns.

"Because Bolon Yokte was already present at the day of creation ... it just seemed natural for the Mayan that Bolon Yokte will again be present," he said.

Of the the approximately 15,000 registered glyphic texts found in different parts of what was then the Mayan empire, only two mention 2012, the Institute said.

"The Maya did not think about humanity, global warming or predict the poles would fuse together," said Alfonso Ladena, a professor from the Complutense University of Madrid. "We project our worries on them."
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby Canu Taliesin » 11 Dec 2011, 20:50

Just in case anyone really is worried...

http://soul2soultreasures.com/mayan_cloak/
I don't know whether I should be crying while I'm laughing. Says it all really. Sarcasm spurned on by paranoid, messianic misinterpretation, and the voice of an apparently bona-fide living tradition is lost in so much white noise. Not sure what the implications of that are on a modern movement with pretensions to 'spirituality'. If the heart-felt message of a much older tradition is consumed and regurgitated to the point of being meaningless, it doesn't give me much hope for the likes of us.
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Re: End of days in 2012?

Postby DJ Droood » 13 Dec 2011, 13:54

Maya may have apocalypsed themselves through...climate change!! :o
Using new reconstructions of vegetation stretching back 2,000 years, NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies climatologist Benjamin Cook and colleagues found that forest-clearing by Mayan farmers worsened drought conditions in the area.

In fact, past research has shown similarly that the ancient South American Nazca civilization (known for large geoglyphs called Nazca lines ) may have caused its own demise by clear-cutting large swaths of forest.

In the case of the Mayans, how did relatively primitive farmers manage to affect the weather? When the Mayans cleared forests, they exposed land surface with a higher albedo, or reflectivity, than the dark-green forest canopy. This land surface reflected energy back into the atmosphere rather than absorbing it, lessening the amount of energy on the land surface available to do things like convect water vapor to form clouds and thus rain. The result, Cook said, was a decline in precipitation by 10 percent to 20 percent.

With less rain, the soil dried out, so any extra energy went to warming the surface rather than evaporating water. The result was a rise in surface temperature by 0.9 degrees Fahrenheit (0.5 degrees Celsius). The lack of rainfall and boost in heat would have been bad news for a society whose survival depended on their farmlands.
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Postby Earthdancer » 02 Jan 2012, 13:29

I really can't do stupid.


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