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Postby Whitemane » 28 Jun 2013, 14:39

I find myself extremely ambivalent about Randi.

He has done a great service by exposing frauds and charlatans, but he has also helped to sire an extreme reductionism about human affairs that is no less destructive than religious fundamentalism that flies in the face of Bacon's dictum that the function of science is to expand the human mind, rather than make the universe something less.
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As usual, Randi is spot on. And I think he makes clear that he isn't just referring to religious Believers. I think we see evidence of willfully ignorant "believers" all around us, in the political sphere (and it doesn't seem to matter if you are rowing port or starboard on the slave galley....you see just as many (well, almost as many) blindly stupid liberals with their partisan talking points as you do conservatives....in the scientific arena with the climate change deniers and intelligent designers, in cultural pursuits, where Kardasians rule...and the worst sin you can commit is to betray your team and change your mind if a more compelling argument or option is offered....that means you are a *flip flopper* (gasp!) People latch on to absurd conspiracy theories, or conversely, believe any sh*t any official feeds them. Then there are the racialists and cultural bigots of all shades. We are all well trained believers, who choke up when the national anthem is played and salute the flag, and consider anyone who wears a uniform a "hero" (except food service workers, of course) or our team beats the other team. Plus ca change. We are still ignorant medieval peasants.
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Postby Bart » 29 Jun 2013, 19:13

I think you find certain types in every movement, group or assembly. You can analyse them according to types of personality (supportive, leader, analyst etc.) but also as fundamentalist, reactionist, troll etc..
In the scientist community there is a group who cannot wait untill they irradicate any superstition (believe in god(s)), while in the believer section people want to abolish science.

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Postby Kris Hughes » 29 Jun 2013, 19:38

Seems like the kind of quote that in open to so many interpretations as to be meaningless.
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