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Help with pronunciation

Postby Tionnsgainn » 09 Jun 2008, 04:19

I found my username: Tionnsgainn, in an online Gaelic dictionary. It had caught my attention the first time I saw it and it has stuck with me since. However, the dictionary that I was looking at did not have a pronunciation guide. If anyone could help me out with how to say "Tionnsgainn" that would be great. I do know that it is Scots Gaelic if that helps.
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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Beith » 11 Jun 2008, 18:41

Hello,

It's a bit hard to represent Gaelic sounds in phonetic English because the consonants have different sounds depending on whether they're broad or slender which can be a little difficult to write in another language.

Tionnsgainn would be like tionscain in Irish Gaeilge (meanings like: begin, initiate, establish). Pronunciation would be something like:
Ti:uns:ken / Tee:insk:sen/ Chins:ken

The T followed by an i is something between a "T" and "Ch"sound (ch as in 'chat'), it's a slender sound.
The : in between the letters above is just to try to identify the sounds of the letter groups for you, not to imply that there's a pause between them. You just pronounce it like a disyllabic word, not tri-syllabic.


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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Tionnsgainn » 11 Jun 2008, 19:29

Thanks along Beith. That helps a lot. I have been pronouncing it Tee-uns-gain or Ty-uns-gain. This will help me pronounce it a little better now. Thanks again.
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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Beith » 11 Jun 2008, 21:08

Tionnsgainn wrote:Thanks along Beith. That helps a lot. I have been pronouncing it Tee-uns-gain or Ty-uns-gain. This will help me pronounce it a little better now. Thanks again.



Hi Tionnsgain

Your pronunciations are absolutely fine! (Just different spellings to mine) The -gainn is indeed a -gan or -ken sound like the -gain of the english word again /a:gen/ but not so much like English 'gain' /gayne/ sound.

The tionn- is just as you have it, teeun or tyun (where y = ee sound). Just don't separate it into highly distinct strained syllables. it is run-together (rhymes with 'shone' as in "the sun shone").

All the best - nice name!

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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Tionnsgainn » 12 Jun 2008, 03:30

That makes sense. Thanks again. When I first saw the word and the meaning, something just clicked.
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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Saibhir-Go-Leor » 27 Aug 2008, 08:53

IRISH SYNTHESISER AVAILABLE:

Chin-Skin ........ Tionnsgainn

I discovered a wonder Irish Sound Synthesiser available at:

http://www.abair.tcd.ie/index.php

which converts written words to speech.

Just enter the word, press the "Synthesise" button ... and Voila! -- Then press the "PLay mp3" button or other options and a lovely female voice will pronounce the word for you in Irish Gaellic (which, in most instances is reasonably close go leor to the Scots, etc.).
Cheers!

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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby LadyCelt » 27 Aug 2008, 13:19

Thank you for that link!! :hug:
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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Tionnsgainn » 27 Aug 2008, 22:53

Thanks a lot Saibhir-Go-Leor, this will be great help, even though I can't read the website, but I think I can figure it out. Thank you again.
Matthew
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Re: Help with pronunciation

Postby Saibhir-Go-Leor » 27 Aug 2008, 23:46

Synthesiser:

Ah Ha! ... The website does have an English version also (look at upper right hand corner, and click on "English"):


http://www.abair.tcd.ie/index.php?page=synthesis&lang=eng
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