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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Sencha » 14 May 2010, 15:08

I agree. Gaming addiction can seriously affect the "normal" life of a young person, not to mention the effects it may have on their developing mind.
I wonder how Internet addiction (to group boards, for example) affects the parents of children?
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 14 May 2010, 15:43

Hi SidheAingeal
Texting is the thing we see as even more addictive, and dangerous.
The obsession with communication is even becoming a topic in politics. Every time a person gets into a car, is it good to open the cell phone and talk the whole time?
Internet gaming is just as bad. But this attacks a young mind, setting up behavior problems the child may carry for some time.

Why are "killing" games so popular?
I see it as a reactionary problem. One which is destructive. But any gaming gives no skill. There is a danger in our exposing youth to computers.
Past the games, it becomes a replacement for too many things.


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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 14 May 2010, 16:34

I wonder how Internet addiction (to group boards, for example) affects the parents of children?
Hi Sencha,
You're posting here every day, so that is a question you should ask yourself :wink:


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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Aitrus » 14 May 2010, 18:21

Wow, I never realized how many things contribute to children becoming violent.

I think I read someplace that over 95% of all criminals drank milk as children. Maybe we need to ban milk because it's obviously linked to violence.

C'mon...spanking in the home or violence in video games or on TV does not automatically mean that a child will be violent. It's the whole atmosphere that the child is raised in, not the little nit-picky things.

- Is there a possibility that a child in a violent household will grow up to be violent themselves? Yes, I will admit that.
- Is there an equal possibility that a child who never recieves discipline from his/her parents will react violently to the sudden application of authority figures in the form of policemen, bosses, etc. because they were never taught to respect authority or to control their actions and emotions when they were children? Yes, beause lack of discipline when called for will do the child just as much disservice in the long run as too much uneeded discipline, no matter the form that discipline takes.
- Is there any one way to raise a child? No.
- Is spanking right for every child? No, Each child responds differently to different forms of discipline.
- Can spanking, when taken too far, be considered abuse? Yes.
- Is emotional abuse, or the witholding of emotional attachment, just as damaging as physical abuse? No, it's worse.

We're arguing one point among many that lay along the road of Parenting. Spanking is just one thing that may have a negative effect on a child. It may just as easily also have a positive effect. It is up to the parent to decide how to raise their child themselves, what forms of discipline to use, and when to use it. Not every parent can use the Time Out, Grounding or Removal of Favored Object techniques with effectiveness.

Each parent must find thier own style. My style differs from my wife's, and we try to present a unifed front when it comes to disciplining our children even though our techniques differ.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 14 May 2010, 18:57

Hi Aitrus,
Absolutely, a spoiled brat who was never even given a harsh word, never spanked or had any discipline at all can become the worst demon seed you may ever see.
Each child is different, and some will be the best people ever, despite all of the abuse in the world, there is no real defined way to ever think all kids react the same.
Hitting kids is just wrong. But saying the prodding of a parent is "corporal punishment" isn't as black & white as murder, sex abuse or assault.
The issue goes two ways, and a demon seed kid will abuse, hit and even murder. No parent is a robot, so we have to take it day by day.
That is why "Superman" the elementary school principal said "one at a time" and had a track record better than anything a peer reviewed book could ever imagine.


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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Aitrus » 14 May 2010, 19:35

Hey Merlyn,

I think you and I are more or less on the same page. We just differ some on semantics and preferences.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 14 May 2010, 19:57

I agree,
If the government wants to tell us how to raise kids, then they all go into the military eh? :-)

There was a time... :wink:
Thankfully we have better things to do now.

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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Sencha » 15 May 2010, 15:51

The topic is 'Discipline and Children.' Stay on topic.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 15 May 2010, 17:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsO8xWWj ... re=related

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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Sencha » 16 May 2010, 01:17

Not every parent can use the Time Out, Grounding or Removal of Favored Object techniques with effectiveness.
Spanking is just one thing that may have a negative effect on a child. It may just as easily also have a positive effect.
Studies...and personal experience...say otherwise.
It is up to the parent to decide how to raise their child themselves, what forms of discipline to use, and when to use it.
Not really. If a parent carries 'discipline' to an extreme, the government has a right to get involved. For example, if I decided that chaining my children to a tree in the back yard was an acceptable form of discipline, do you think that it would be 'up to me' to decide that such action is okay and acceptable?
Not every parent can use the Time Out, Grounding or Removal of Favored Object techniques with effectiveness.
Every parent can do it if they learn the techniques. Of course, it's always easier just to be lazy, not learn anything, and just continue to hit instead.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 16 May 2010, 02:18

it's always easier just to be lazy, not learn anything, and just continue to hit instead.
So why do you hit your children? :shrug:
the government has a right to get involved
Have they taken your children away?
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Sencha » 16 May 2010, 05:48

I demand that the moderators remove the above post as inflammatory and offensive.
Oh wait...I forgot...OBOD members are allowed to be petty and vindictive. It's only those of us who aren't sucker enough to pay for 'lessons' that get censored here.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Ghostrider » 16 May 2010, 07:44

Hmm.. that would be unfair...

Then again... I wonder why you complain about inflammatory posts, when all I've seen from you is provocative trolling?

The subject is displine and children, but I fail to see discipline from you either. Perhaps some reactions are a bit childish, but in each and every thread you get involved in you only supply negative criticism. If you're soooooo convinced of your own righteousness and you're sooooooo annoyed by people on this forum... Why not get the heck OUT?

This forum is a source of wisdom for those who see it, however, it's also a place to interact in a friendly and relaxed way. And not all members of the FORUM are members of OBOD, so why blame eeeeeeverything on OBOD? You don't HAVE to be here you know...
Or are you just trying to enlight us and show us the errors of our ways? In that case...: it's NOT WORKING!!!
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 16 May 2010, 15:38

OBOD members are allowed to be petty and vindictive. It's only those of us who aren't sucker enough to pay for 'lessons' that get censored here.
Such an aggressive post for such a simple mistake?
Oh my, did I misread your post Sencha? :-) So sorry, I thought you said that you think hitting children is what you think is just the easy way to discipline them.
Sencha, it looks as though everyone has seen through your sheep skin...
And it might bear good for you to know that the "moderators" here are no longer wearing badges or really anything to denote who they are...
And YOU have insulted many of them directly, over and over again..
Funny that eh? :wink:

It just so happens that the "suckers" you allude to are the moderators of this board.
So please stop "running with scissors", and please take the advice of many here, and just stop it. :x

If you do stop insulting others, and stop ignoring their contributions, work with a mutual respect for others,
YOU will get that in return! :hug:
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Sencha » 16 May 2010, 17:00

This forum is a source of wisdom for those who see it, however, it's also a place to interact in a friendly and relaxed way. And not all members of the FORUM are members of OBOD, so why blame eeeeeeverything on OBOD? You don't HAVE to be here you know...
Or are you just trying to enlight us and show us the errors of our ways? In that case...: it's NOT WORKING!!!
One is taught in accordance with one's ability to learn.

Are there any moderators here who aren't members of OBOD? If not, then the answer to your question above is self-evident.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Ghostrider » 16 May 2010, 17:17

Sigh....

I think I will answer to that post in accordance with what is probably the deeper meaning of this thread.....





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Sorry... but I'm very very undisciplined... Ask any momderator... (I'm not one! :innocent: )
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Merlyn » 16 May 2010, 17:33

Are there any moderators here who aren't members of OBOD?
There is a lot you just do not know.
Perhaps you should stop assuming things.
One is taught in accordance with one's ability to learn.
That can be the case, and so far you are not giving it much effort.
If you wish to learn here, then do the thing we all seem to wish of you.... converse with respect and learn from it.


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Re: Discipline and children

Postby cursuswalker » 17 May 2010, 01:07

That is THE most ridiculous line of BS I have seen all week

After such an example I seriously doubt you know anything about raising children.
I ask that the moderators remove the above post as insulting and inflammatory.
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby cursuswalker » 17 May 2010, 01:11

I demand that the moderators remove the above post as inflammatory and offensive.
Oh wait...I forgot...OBOD members are allowed to be petty and vindictive. It's only those of us who aren't sucker enough to pay for 'lessons' that get censored here.
I demand that the moderators remove the above post as inflammatory and offensive.

(Not really. I'm not THAT sad)
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Re: Discipline and children

Postby Sencha » 17 May 2010, 01:59

I demand that the moderators remove the above post as inflammatory and offensive.

(Not really. I'm not THAT sad)
You might want to google the humor value of 'irony.' Perhaps it would clarify things for you.
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