see now why you are so concerned to present the role of what you call 'seer' in the light you do, as the opposite of what I think. Does the idea that it might not be any great shakes make you worry that you are a fraud or deluded?
None of that makes any sense in my worldview at all,katie. I don't fear that I'm deluded, although for many years I tested myself rigorously - I'm in a place of comfort about my gifts. And still - always - working on my weaker areas. I'm not really "concerned to present" myself any way, I'm simply what I am - and seer is part of it.
I thought this forum was welcoming of people such as myself?
I don't think you are a fraud (unless you are charging money for your services above the cost of your expenses) or deluded (any more than I think having a voluntary drug-induced hallucination is deluded), I just think you are attached to the need for calling what you do 'clairvoyance' when there are other less (or at least differently) culturally loaded ways of describing it.
First, with all due respect, I neither need nor asked for your sanction or judgement on what I call msyelf.
Second, you sure know a lot about a stranger on a message forum, for having read only a small bit about me from my posts.
I had hoped to encounter friendlier, less aggressive people here.
I believe a significant number of other humans, enough for it to be as common-as-muck have similar abilities to you, but don't necessarily use the same language, and so don't buy into all the trappings of the 'clairvoyant' label. They live their lives without being afraid of being perceived as frauds or deluded, because they don't advertise their services and they are happy to be ordinary.
you can call yourself ordinary all you want;I see people as all special and unique, as I've said before, myself included. I make my living as a herbalist and nutritionist and rarely do readings anymore, not that I owe you any kind of an explanation.
I am happy that any such gift might be all in my own head, and I am happy to be asked 'what makes me so important' with a wink and a smile by my wise friend Hilary and I don't really care if other people think I am spiritual or not. I don't consult oracular systems very often (like tarot) because I am happy that I can read most situations well enough myself.
I'm happy for you. I use the tarot 90% of the time for reasons other than divination; you on the other hand, must be very special that you don't need any such oracle.
What you call 'developing' your gift equally could be seen as placing disproportionate emphasis on it.
That quite commonly occurs with beginners, but I am long past that phase. Then again, you could hardly be expected to know anything about me, as instead of spending time getting to know me, you've gone straight onto the attack. Perhaps a little more self reflection in YOUR case is in order?
There is nothing wrong with developing insight and wisdom,and no one here says it isn't, just that some people here don't think it is particularly helpful to try and 'know' the future in any concrete way, and that trying to won't work, because of the nature of time, which is well-studied in the scientific community. All people are capable of developing these kind of skills, just not everyone chooses to use oft-misappropriated terms like 'seer' or 'shaman'. I prefer to think of such abilities as something inherent in everyone, natural, not super-natural, and to use down to earth language and reality-checks (like making sure I am abreast of the real science of consciousness), rather than special language to try and make it sound like it's somehow mysterious, and really amazing.
But, I think it IS mysterious and amazing - am I not allowed to think that? Should you decide for me how I view these unusual (or any) abilities?
It's deeply disappointing to me how one r two people with an attitude problem can ruin an otherwise lovely forums experience for others. I know it well; I run a lively Pagan forum myself. I know how I would handle this sort of aggression if I encountered it there...perhaps it's tolerated here. but you have decided to strike out at ME, instead of discussing the distinction in terms were looking at here. You have the gall to suggest I am fearful of delusion and have some pathetic need to be seen as special - at the same time you exhibit to my mind, a sharklike need to jump all over people whose language or worldview offends you, as mine clearly does.
And yes, I am a seer. yes, I am special in my talents and ordinary in other ways. I believe everyone is special and "ordinary". I see no arrogance in stating what one is skilled in. This is a Druid forum and I am a seer and a healer. If that's hard for some to swallow - TOUGH. I won't be jumped all over by a pair of strangers who really, have no idea who I am or what my gifts are, life is like, or anything other than my choice of descriptor is a personal bugaboo of theirs.