Hello,
Just to be sure I understand the process, I have to be bard first before I can become ovate and then druid? Reason I ask is that I'm more interested in ovate and/or druid. I'm not sure if I have any skills worthy to be a bard as I don't write poetry or music or anything like that.
Thanks!
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Re: 3 paths
Hi Jeremy, this link should explain everything. It's on the main website of OBOD.sagecedar wrote: ↑11 Sep 2019, 16:13 Hello,
Just to be sure I understand the process, I have to be bard first before I can become ovate and then druid? Reason I ask is that I'm more interested in ovate and/or druid. I'm not sure if I have any skills worthy to be a bard as I don't write poetry or music or anything like that.
Thanks!
https://www.druidry.org/druid-way/what- ... /what-bard
I hope that helps,
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Re: 3 paths
The bardic grade lays the foundation, helps you establish connections and introduces ritual. That's why it comes first. (Both Heddwen's link and the early gwersi explain this in depth). You don't need to be a musician or poet (I'm neither). It doesn't matter in which way you try to develop your creativity... and often enough you unearth hidden talents you'd never have expected to have! I've heard of quite a few who finished the druid grade and started right again with a second round of bard - ovate - druid.
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Re: 3 paths
I agree with the above and will add --
That just because you don't do poetry or music now doesn't mean you never will. A lot of Bardic training is about listening to quiet, still voices inside you, and encouraging them to grow. You may be surprised by what you enjoy.
That there are a very wide variety of Bardic expression that may interest you more than music and poetry. Storytelling, including the telling of good jokes, fits right in. Lots of us bring Bardic practice to visual arts, carpentry, gardening, cookery, housekeeping...which may or may not be more compelling to you than music and poetry.
That lots of us meet challenges as we are able; occasionally I come to a practicum that just doesn't feel in sync with where I'm at, so I make a note in my journal and then move on. There is no penalty. I have come back to a couple of those later on, but there's nothing saying I have to, because...
That you can, in the end, do whatever you want. There's just a lot of foundational practice in the Bardic grade that might leave you confused if you skip it entirely.
Best of luck!
That just because you don't do poetry or music now doesn't mean you never will. A lot of Bardic training is about listening to quiet, still voices inside you, and encouraging them to grow. You may be surprised by what you enjoy.
That there are a very wide variety of Bardic expression that may interest you more than music and poetry. Storytelling, including the telling of good jokes, fits right in. Lots of us bring Bardic practice to visual arts, carpentry, gardening, cookery, housekeeping...which may or may not be more compelling to you than music and poetry.
That lots of us meet challenges as we are able; occasionally I come to a practicum that just doesn't feel in sync with where I'm at, so I make a note in my journal and then move on. There is no penalty. I have come back to a couple of those later on, but there's nothing saying I have to, because...
That you can, in the end, do whatever you want. There's just a lot of foundational practice in the Bardic grade that might leave you confused if you skip it entirely.
Best of luck!
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Re: 3 paths
Hello ,
I totally understand your concerns regarding the Bardic grade . Creativity comes in many forms and one should not feel bad if their talents do not conform to the classical idea of the Bard . For example many excel at cooking while others do not, we all have different gifts which are as valuable as each other . I have found the Bardic grade gave me confidence personally in the foundation of ritual and understanding of Druid history once I learnt those I have moved onto Ovate grade with balance and more understanding of both the spiritual and real worlds .
I loved the Bardic grade I learnt so much about myself and the world around me all of which enabled me to move forward into the Ovate forest further without fear or ignorance . However I am learning everyday and will be I suspect through Ovate ,Druid grades and beyond.
Kindest Regards
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I totally understand your concerns regarding the Bardic grade . Creativity comes in many forms and one should not feel bad if their talents do not conform to the classical idea of the Bard . For example many excel at cooking while others do not, we all have different gifts which are as valuable as each other . I have found the Bardic grade gave me confidence personally in the foundation of ritual and understanding of Druid history once I learnt those I have moved onto Ovate grade with balance and more understanding of both the spiritual and real worlds .
I loved the Bardic grade I learnt so much about myself and the world around me all of which enabled me to move forward into the Ovate forest further without fear or ignorance . However I am learning everyday and will be I suspect through Ovate ,Druid grades and beyond.
Kindest Regards
Rita
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Re: 3 paths
I can honestly say that I always wanted to just skip over the Bard grade and go straight into the Ovate as I have always considered myself one of those rare people with not an inch of creativity inside. That was down to my rather old fashioned and limited idea of what creativity really is. Once you figure that out you'll be amazed how interesting and diverse the Bardic grade can be.
I just hope this realisation won't take you as long as it took me. Enjoy the Bardic grade, I am sure you will learn a lot about yourself .
I just hope this realisation won't take you as long as it took me. Enjoy the Bardic grade, I am sure you will learn a lot about yourself .
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I can echo that. At some point in my life I had come to the conclusion that I was not a creative person. It was one of the gifts of the Bardic grade to make me see just how ridiculous that notion was. (And I also am no ‘traditional’ bard: I don’t do poetry and have no skill in playing music. But creativity can manifest in many forms...)as I have always considered myself one of those rare people with not an inch of creativity inside. That was down to my rather old fashioned and limited idea of what creativity really is. Once you figure that out you'll be amazed how interesting and diverse the Bardic grade can be.
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