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trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 20 Dec 2013, 20:27
by greygreen
I found this article and thought I would share it with a group of people who spend alot of their time talking about/to trees:

http://io9.com/the-growing-evidence-tha ... 1486813632

of particular note (emphasis mine): "... the possibility that plants share information raises intriguing questions about what counts as behavior and communication — and why organisms that compete with one another might also see fit to network their knowledge."

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 20 Dec 2013, 21:18
by Aphritha
Very interesting. It reminds me of a section I read in an older book(Linda Goodman's Star Signs) on a man who had hooked up some sort of moniters to his plants and found that they would 'faint' before he'd pick a leaf or something of the sort. Over time and experimentation, he discovered they would also go into this 'mindless' state when someone nearby had ill intentions towards them(well, what the plant would perceive as an ill intention).
Very interesting read; recommend it if you ever get the chance.

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 21 Dec 2013, 07:05
by ShadowCat
I've been quite impressed by this video. At Damanhur they use biofeedbackequipment to measure the differences in energyflux in the plant, and a computer changes it into music.

http://www.finerminds.com/consciousness ... -damanhur/

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 21 Dec 2013, 17:46
by Aphritha
That's awesome! :D

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 18:41
by greygreen
Aphritha wrote:Very interesting. It reminds me of a section I read in an older book(Linda Goodman's Star Signs) on a man who had hooked up some sort of moniters to his plants and found that they would 'faint' before he'd pick a leaf or something of the sort. Over time and experimentation, he discovered they would also go into this 'mindless' state when someone nearby had ill intentions towards them(well, what the plant would perceive as an ill intention).
Very interesting read; recommend it if you ever get the chance.
I'll pick that up for sure. I've heard of a similar study where plants were sending off "pain" signals when leaves or fruit were picked though I can't for the life of me find it now. I just love all the debate lately about artificial life, animal intelligence and plant senses. The world is looking awful druidic these days!

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 06:30
by ShadowCat
I remember a quizshow in the eighties where in one episode (it was about amazing feats people had) a blindfolded person could feel by holding plants and veggies, which corresponding veggies where being cut up behind a screen. He explained that a living plant quakes in fear when someone of it's own species is hacked to pieces. I've always wondered if it was a clever trick or if there was something more to it.

On a sidenote, I've been rewatching the old Herbie-movies and the statement that "people pour so much of their own emotions into their machines that the machines get their own identity" is quit recognisable.

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 00:42
by deepwater
Who could think otherwise that the world we hold dear to our souls did not speak to us,,In each season there is a language spoken of life and death and of sleep or awakening,,Its the cycle

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 10:04
by ShadowCat
I love how Deepwater's comment kicks this post up once more. Thank you!

Today, while I sat staring out of my bedroom window, over the large field where my neighbour keeps deers, llama's, goats and all sort of creatures, seeing the trees, my cats around me, I realised that the whole "parallel dimensions" thingy might be just that, the world from every different viewpoint is a different world.

Re: trees can think and communicate, says science

Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 18:24
by Aphritha
ShadowCat wrote:On a sidenote, I've been rewatching the old Herbie-movies and the statement that "people pour so much of their own emotions into their machines that the machines get their own identity" is quit recognisable.
Laugh if you must, but this idea has always horrified me. Even as an adult, I contemplate all the inanimate objects I've been emotionally attached to(toys from childhood, favored articles of clothing, household knick-knacks)that met unfavorable ends...because they had so much of lifeforce put into them, did they suffer with whatever happened to them? Its always bothered me. Kind of get anxiety just writing about it...
ShadowCat wrote:Today, while I sat staring out of my bedroom window, over the large field where my neighbour keeps deers, llama's, goats and all sort of creatures, seeing the trees, my cats around me, I realised that the whole "parallel dimensions" thingy might be just that, the world from every different viewpoint is a different world.
I also like that we are a hundred different people to a hundred different people. Meaning that, (for example)while my husband might see me as an outgoing, intelligent, humorous individual, his friend might see me as an eccentric, snotty pain in the...well, you get it. My sister might see me as a low life, a friend might see me as enlightened. In their minds, they're all correct. So therefor, I've just legitimately taken on 4 different personalities, because their realities are as real as mine...