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Earth Energy

Postby malcolmb » 27 Jun 2015, 10:27

Greetings All

Back in October of last year, I started a new Grove on my little Isle ("Grove of the Peaceful Earth"). Nine of us who gather to celebrate the eight festivals of the year. We found a small Grove surrounded by venerable Oak trees in an ancient forest on the Isle where we now hold our ceremonies. One of our members is a dowser who dowsed the Grove at our first gathering. Nothing, no Earth Energy at all! Since then, at every gathering, he has again dowsed the Grove and found an increasingly strong energy point at the centre of the Grove where we place our small altar and an increasing number of energy radials and circles (we are now up to 15 radials!).

I find this intriguing and equally puzzling. I have been part of ceremonies at ancient sites with Standing Stones that are awash with energies but our Grove is a new location where there is no evidence that anyone has every gathered there before. Have we brought out energy that already existed at that point by the simple act of gathering there? Or are we attracting energy to the Grove by our ceremonies?

Your thoughts would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Earth Energy

Postby rainwater » 08 Sep 2015, 02:32

Based on my personal experience, the answer is "yes" to both questions.

To varying degrees, we all sense the energies around us and respond to them. We feel attracted to places that have "good" energy, whether it is calming, invigorating, inspiring, etc. Likewise, we feel repelled by places that have "bad" energy, where we feel fearful, sick, uneasy, etc. And that energy exists whether we humans are there to experience it or not; it is a part of the place.

But, human activity can influence and even alter the energy of a place. A parking lot just doesn't have the same "magic" as the wood that stood before it.

When you engage in ritual, you are basically transforming the energies in and around you, if only for a moment. And just as this change has a cumulative effect on your individual energy over time and with repetition, the ritual space is changed in the same way. Or rather, the place changes in the same way, as the space is as much a participant in the ritual as you are.

I edited out the bits that were getting a too deep into the metaphysics--they just got a little too unbelievable, even for me--so I hope that what remains still makes sense.

Basically, the place has its own energy. Your rituals have impacted that energy and added to it. Thus, the "new" energy that your friend is detecting.

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Re: Earth Energy

Postby malcolmb » 08 Sep 2015, 10:26

Hello rainwater

Very many thanks for your thoughts and advice. Much appreciated. I must admit it was a pleasant surprise to at last receive a response to my question from June.

Very much agree with all you say. It does seem to me that the answer is yes to both questions. I certainly accept that ritual is powerful and acts as a beacon to attract existing energy from the environs. Certainly, in my view, the Spirits of Place and the Elements are powerful nature energies and their presence during our rituals must combine with our energies and leave a lasting force in the Grove.

I also agree that the place itself is part of and participates in the ritual. It is perhaps difficult to differentiate between the Spirits of Place and Elements and the place itself. The Spirits of Place are so deeply interwoven with the fabric of Place to be almost indistinguishable. And of course the fabric of Place is the combination of Elements. But to me, over and above the Spirits, the Grove itself is a part of the Earth Mother and it is her presence that we celebrate and it is she who joins with us in our rituals. Her welcome as we gather is felt by all present. Certainly, the energy created by such a gathering cannot easily dissipate and can only grow with each celebration we hold in the Grove.
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My original "Druid Music" CDs (all proceeds to the charity "Pagan Aid":
https://lylemusic.bandcamp.com/

My original Celtic / Folk / Jazz music at:
http://www.soundclick.com/lylemusic
http://www.soundclick.com/malcolmbrown
http://www.youtube.com/user/LyleMusic

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Re: Earth Energy

Postby DaRC » 08 Sep 2015, 12:20

:old: I must have missed this post... June was a bit hectic.
Likewise, we feel repelled by places that have "bad" energy, where we feel fearful, sick, uneasy, etc. And that energy exists whether we humans are there to experience it or not; it is a part of the place.
Hmmm I'm not sure about this. We have a friend, brought up in Somerset, who went to a local place and said she felt it had 'bad' energy and felt this 'bad' energy was part of the place.
Except this place is part of the sacred Sussex landscape, I have spent time at that place and received wisdom from the trees of that place. For me the energy is all 'good'.
Which raises the question of a person's relationship to a place or space.
This paticular place is a part of my childhood. I've grown up with that place in sight and visited it throughout my life. I've been there in all weathers and at all times.
So maybe an outsider, or someone unfamiliar, with a place or space prompts different reactions.
Maybe I know the place and the place knows me?

Edit - although I do think there are some places that have a bad feeling too, where everyone I know gets a bad vide from the place. I'm just raising the point that you can't judge a place singularly.
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Re: Earth Energy

Postby malcolmb » 08 Sep 2015, 13:07

Hello DaRC

I do agree with rainwater that all places have energy in that all places have Spirit and Spirit is energy. Equally, we are energy as is the whole Universe (I suspect I have a touch of the Quantum's :whistle: ).

As for "bad" energy, I agree with you. We are all different and we all experience the natural world in different ways. Equally, the natural world experiences us in different ways. Our experience of the Spirits depends upon which Spirits want to make their presence know and I am sure that different people attract different Spirits. Equally, the same person can attract different Spirits depending upon the person's mood at the time. In fact, the natural world is such a vast experience that a single place can take lifetimes to study and yet never truly know. So it does not surprise me at all that one person can feel "bad" energy in a place and yet another person feel only good. Unfortunately, I suspect those who experience "bad" energy on their initial visit to a place will not return to it and open themselves to all the goodness that the place can also offer. I have come across this myself having been warned that only harm can come from visiting a place while I found only healing and inspiration at that same place.
Isle of Wight Peaceful Earth Grove: https://www.peacefulearthgrove.com/
Isle of Wight Order of Druids: https://peacefulearthgrove.com/Wight-Or ... Druids.php


My original "Druid Music" CDs (all proceeds to the charity "Pagan Aid":
https://lylemusic.bandcamp.com/

My original Celtic / Folk / Jazz music at:
http://www.soundclick.com/lylemusic
http://www.soundclick.com/malcolmbrown
http://www.youtube.com/user/LyleMusic

“So many Gods, so many creeds, so many paths that wind and wind. While just the art of being kind, is all the sad world needs.” Ella Wheeler Wilcox

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Re: Earth Energy

Postby rainwater » 09 Sep 2015, 03:14

:old: I must have missed this post... June was a bit hectic.
Likewise, we feel repelled by places that have "bad" energy, where we feel fearful, sick, uneasy, etc. And that energy exists whether we humans are there to experience it or not; it is a part of the place.
Hmmm I'm not sure about this. We have a friend, brought up in Somerset, who went to a local place and said she felt it had 'bad' energy and felt this 'bad' energy was part of the place.
Except this place is part of the sacred Sussex landscape, I have spent time at that place and received wisdom from the trees of that place. For me the energy is all 'good'.
Which raises the question of a person's relationship to a place or space.
This paticular place is a part of my childhood. I've grown up with that place in sight and visited it throughout my life. I've been there in all weathers and at all times.
So maybe an outsider, or someone unfamiliar, with a place or space prompts different reactions.
Maybe I know the place and the place knows me?

Edit - although I do think there are some places that have a bad feeling too, where everyone I know gets a bad vide from the place. I'm just raising the point that you can't judge a place singularly.
The quotation marks on "good" and "bad" were meant to emphasize the subjective nature of the terms. I had originally explained but that was in the bit that was starting to not make sense (subjective nature of reality and all that), and so deleted it was.

So, I agree.


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