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Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:10
by wolf560
Bart wrote:
cursuswalker wrote: OR.....they are from another dimension etc. In which case prove to me that dimension exists or, in the nicest most druidic sense, STFU.
...Physics created a number of surplus dimension... Just because they needed them to balance the math...
Good point Bart...!!! Physicists in CERN are positing several hundred dimensions may exist now...
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/ ... akthrough/
Lily wrote:Maybe the purpose... is to dissect a skeptical person's experience of druid spirituality from all the pseudoscience junk and stuff ...
Well said Lily...!!!
I think that would be a good premise to work on in general for a forum such as this.
I also would like to state that I am not arguing for the existence of Fairys with colorful wings starring in Disney movies, it was just an example...


DJ Droood wrote:
wolf560 wrote:Perhaps a philosophical discussion of ... Faeries is not meant to be discussed here...
There are 879 other subforums here... they state:
The discussion here is general and far-ranging but should have something to do with Druidry.
Perhaps what you are talking about is "Non-Overlapping Magisteria"
... the NOMA principle as "the magisterium of science covers the empirical realm: what the Universe is made of (fact) and why does it work in this way (theory). The magisterium of religion extends over questions of ultimate meaning and moral value."
True, but in my example of the Fairies... they are not "related to Druids" either... there are no accounts mentioned that I am aware of wherein Aristotle, Pythagoras, Tacitus, or Caesar ever mentioned Druids interacting with Faeries even once...

I LIKE the NOMA Principle...!!!
I am a BIG fan of modern Physics and modern Science... and I find History fascinating to the point that a new discovery that puts it all on its ear is just a bump in the road for me.


I spent the last six months in High School working after hours with my A.P. Physics professor on calculations for rocket fuel equations based on the Saturn-V frame.
He allowed me access to the necessary books and checked my equations on the blackboard and my notebook, but never helped me find anything.
I had a BLAST doing that

For the record, I do believe in the possibility of energies that could be used metaphysically, but I do not believe everyone can do it nor do I believe that many are actually working "High Magic".
I do believe however that the power of the human mind is far greater than many give it credit for and that anyone has the ability to tap into their own mind to do amazing things to themselves.

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:17
by DJ Droood
Good point Bart...!!! Physicists in CERN are positing several hundred dimensions may exist now...
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/ ... akthrough/

good news for the theist/fairyologist! hundreds of more dimensions for the little people to hide in! (I'm sorry...was that unartful sarcasim?)

wolf560 wrote:True, but in my example of the Fairies... they are not "related to Druids" either... there are no accounts mentioned that I am aware of wherein Aristotle, Pythagoras, Tacitus, or Caesar ever mentioned Druids interacting with Faeries even once...
you are so old-fashioned...modern druidry has been fluttering about on gossamer wings for years now....

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:21
by wolf560
LMAO..!!!

(you are GOOD, but for me its not so much "fluttering" as "flitting from one magical thought to another"...)

Re: Otherworld...Did I have a brush with it's darker side?

Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 17:56
by MiriamSPia
DJ Droood wrote:
Bartholomew wrote:Well I will discuss anything anywhere, I'm easy. The big big problem with talk of spirits and ouija boards and tarot and healing and dowsing and praying and anything that is outside the realm of the five senses is................ just that. It is subjective and good old concrete scientific proof just won't cut the mustard DJ. So I do not think that any discussion on such matters on any forum will convince anyone of anything. Seeing is believing and all that. It is by the grace of God that I am here discussing this!
"Reiki is an experience not an explanation!" Taken from my newly developed and written holistic therapy brochure. And you can say I am up my own arse with that statement but it is a lived and learned statement. Yes. I'm on this side of the fence!
yea...you are probaly right...I thought maybe the board could have a little ghetto for people like me...a little place to rest after riding the candy rainbow roller coaster....."scientific proof" is sooo mentally tiresome....intellectual honesty simply makes people uncomfortable....which is undruidic.

Perhaps I have things backwards....maybe it is time for The Skeptical Druid sub-forum to be retired. I suggest "Bible-Based Homeopathy" might get more hits. I will start packing my desk and getting with the new program.
:shrug: :old: :boggle: I think it depends a lot on the milieu. If one is surrounded by the backward and superstitious or irrational then the bright light of science and rationality is a blessing. If one has been swamped by pure rationalism and scientific understand and have found that one has 'paranormal experiences' despite this and it turns out one's mental health is also good, then one is dealing with material that might need to handled anyways - through means other than denial. Anyways, that's actually what I'm doing 'playing with pagans' anyways. If nothing paranormal happens to you then there is no reason at all for you to believe in it. :idea: :old:

Re: Otherworld...Did I have a brush with it's darker side?

Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 18:36
by DJ Droood
MiriamSPia wrote:If one is surrounded by the backward and superstitious or irrational then the bright light of science and rationality is a blessing.

Exactly...which I think nicely sums up "The Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" forum on this board, and in the broader milieu of druidry.

Re: Otherworld...Did I have a brush with it's darker side?

Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 00:13
by whitehorse
DJ Droood wrote:
MiriamSPia wrote:If one is surrounded by the backward and superstitious or irrational then the bright light of science and rationality is a blessing.

Exactly...which I think nicely sums up "The Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" forum on this board, and in the broader milieu of druidry.
Sorry, missed that. Who were you calling backward, superstitious and irrational?
:whistle:

Anyway, everyone knows that the 'Otherworld' is the collective unconscious.

Regards,

Forever Jung

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 05:19
by Bart
And that the collective unconscious equalls mans repressed fears.

Yours
Freud

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 06 Jun 2011, 21:38
by treegod
In this time of ecological strife we must look deep into our collective psyche to uncover and recover the ecological unconscious.

Yours,
Roszak

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 07 Jun 2011, 07:46
by Bart
For this we need to replace the reflexes of current society and recondition the human animalistic brain.

Yours
Pavlov

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 15:18
by Frog
But of course, this is all dependent upon whether we have free choice, or no control.

John Watson.

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 08 Jun 2011, 21:43
by wolf560
Perhaps, but in the end will Lucy really hold the ball down this time?

Charlie Brown

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 10:13
by Bart
It is only the image of a ball. The true ball cannot be seen.

Plato

Re: Purpose of "The Skeptical Druid" (was: Otherworld...)

Posted: 09 Jun 2011, 23:21
by treegod
If it bounces and you don't have any other experience of it and that works for you you might as well call it a ball.

William James