Florence wrote:Twirch wrote:I haven't read that book but IMO it means that before "the fall" his body was subtler using occultists terminology and after "the fall" it became more dense. What does it mean? _That before it was vibrating at a higher speed and that made it subtler and afterwards it began to vibrate more slowly and thus became more dense. But here the question is: what is "the fall"? What should be understood as a "fall"? IMO again probably the descendt to the world of three dimensions --ours--and before they must have been dwelling in another dimension, maybe the fourth or fifth!!!!!!I've been reading the First Book of Adam and Eve in the Gnostic Scriptures and its interesting how Adam refers to his previous body before the Fall as being made of energy... perhaps it was even pure vibration and sound. Perhaps a glimpse of what we become after death?
I've been reading the First Book of Adam and Eve in the Gnostic Scriptures and its interesting how Adam refers to his previous body before the Fall as being made of energy... perhaps it was even pure vibration and sound. Perhaps a glimpse of what we become after death?
In fact we are manifesting in several dimensions at the same time but we are only aware of a few of them. for instance if you take the physical body it is in a dimension but if you think about feelings or thoughts? The are not so solid(apparently)or dense as the physical body.Aren't they? But they exist anyway.....Some seers like bishop Leadbeater of the theosophical society said he could actually "see" persons thoughts......it means he could see subtker matter......again this is my opinion according to what I've studyied!!!!!!Hope I've made it clearer......we are always talking about matter (as Kernos pointed) in different states or frequencies of vibration.........
L & B
From the index page:Twyrch wrote:http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe009.htm
I think I would want a much more modern translation of this stuff before making much of their details. A phrase like "made of energy..." sounds quite Victorian to me.The Forgotten Books of Eden
edited by Rutherford H. Platt, Jr.
[1926, copyright not renewed]
This is a popularized translation of the OT pseudepigrapha, quasi-Biblical writings which never achieved canonical status (or inclusion in any of the official Apocrypha). This isn't to say that these documents are forgeries, just that for one reason or another they were not considered part of the Biblical text by the first millenium (C.E.) compilers. This book contains translations of all of the texts found in volume I of the weighty Oxford University Press Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha, without any of the apparatus.
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Well this makes me think that maybe all of us (and maybe everything in the universe)has a personal or individual tone-sound-vibration or whatever that defines us!!!!!!Yep, exactly... from what I've read, I gather that Adam and Eve were creatures of light or energy, most likely vibration and sound playing a significant role in this.
The problem they had is that semitic languagges don't write the vowels so JHVH gives no clue to the exact sounds!!!!!!!Maybe we and every creature (created)in the universe has its special sound or vibration.You know I'd rather say vibration because once you're out of the atmosphere you can't listen to sounds because there's no means to propagate the waves. 
This was all I could find on a book like that.Twig wrote:Oh, what a delicious thread! Wish I'd found it sooner...
Twyrch -- this is an excellent topic, not one which will cause people to laugh you off of the board! As we get more and more into quantum physics, I think the idea of vibratory concepts are going to become commonplace.
I thought of one of the original Star Trek series, where crew members kept disappearing, and what seemed like buzzing bugs replaced them. They had simply upped their frequency! They weren't insects at all; they were higher-vibrating humans.
If only I would spend more time in meditation. I am certain that it changes our frequency...
Wasn't there a book in the nineties called _Vibratory Medicine_? I think it was written to validate homeopathy, flower essences, etc.
give vegitarianism a try! Well you know some hindu masters say that if we were able to chant the Gayatri Mantra 24 hs. without stopping like a radio for instance or a Cd. player after some time we'd turn into pure Light and vanish from this dense world!!!!!!If only I would spend more time in meditation. I am certain that it changes our frequency...
Many philosophers and scientists now I guess accept the fact that sound or vibration is able to modify matter. And that's why in the ancient scriptures like the Bible for instance or the hindu Vedas the world is created by God's words. In case of the Bible God orders Light to appear and so on....and in the Vedas Brahma the creator utters the OM to create the world!!!! It would be the meaning of these tales in holy books!!!!!!There's a guy I work with, Tim, who suffers from Lime Disease. He hasn't found a cure for it, but he has significantly extended his life by weakening the disease and destroying it's spread through the use of tone and vibration. He discovered that Lime Disease will disappear if a concentrated burst of sound is directed at it on a certain frequency.
If you listen to music too loud it may harm your hearing.....that's medical not my opinion merely..... 
Twig wrote:..I thought of one of the original Star Trek series, where crew members kept disappearing, and what seemed like buzzing bugs replaced them. They had simply upped their frequency! They weren't insects at all; they were higher-vibrating humans...
It was called "Wink of an Eye":Twyrch wrote:...I have to admit, I don't remember that Star Trek episode, but I bet Kernos does.
), called 'Perceptions of a Stone'. The poem begins with the stone perceiving itself as 'vibrating crystals' and 'energy surging', then anthropomorphizing it's surroundings, and concluding with it's self perception again. So I guess when I wrote that, it seemed to me that basically, atoms vibrate, and give off energy. And since we are all made of the same basic elemental molecules, we all vibrate and give off energy. Rather a primal description, but hey, it's a poem by a stone. (and no, I wasn't 'stoned' when I wrote it) 
/|\ Anyway...what caught my interest here, was actually the discussion of vibrations and energy. I wrote a poem about 10 years ago (that I just happened to enter in the current Eisteddfod ), called 'Perceptions of a Stone'. The poem begins with the stone perceiving itself as 'vibrating crystals' and 'energy surging', then anthropomorphizing it's surroundings, and concluding with it's self perception again. So I guess when I wrote that, it seemed to me that basically, atoms vibrate, and give off energy. And since we are all made of the same basic elemental molecules, we all vibrate and give off energy. Rather a primal description, but hey, it's a poem by a stone. (and no, I wasn't 'stoned' when I wrote it)
I'm definitely not an Einstein.Florence wrote:...You're a female Einstein !!!! Or maybe a druidic Einstein?
I bet the poem was beautiful !!!!!! I'd love to be perceived as a crystal...maybe a blue one.....a clear zaffire....( I can't say why that image came to my mind)......
Wouldn't you post it?
/|\ Agree completely with that !!!!!! Everything in the universe is alive, the Universe itself is a living being and minerals & rocks are alive too only they vibrate in their own frequency and live their experiences according to their evolutionary level.According to reencarnation theories even humans must have been incarnated in simpler organisms as gases, rocks or minerals until we evolved enough to incarnate in a human body. In fact our bodies are made of the same stuff as stars, planet earth and so on. That's why Carl Sagan said "we are made of star stuff".To me, stones, rocks, minerals, are inorganic beings, that vibrate on very low frequencies, have very slow metabolisms (so to speak), and I relate to them as I do to organic beings, such as plants, animals, trees, & people. So although this thread is about 'The Frequency of Life', I think inorganic beings, such as rocks and stones, resonate with their own type of frequencies too. Many types of gemstones and minerals are used in healing and balancing, for this reason.
- Well, I didn't actually say they were alive:Florence wrote:thank you for the remark about stones and crystals being alive...
To me, a being may have a spirit, but not necessarily be alive, or be sentient. It's more of a spiritual connection, that I am describing, not a scientific one.Dryadia2 wrote:...To me, stones, rocks, minerals, are inorganic beings...
/|\ To me, a being may have a spirit, but not necessarily be alive, or be sentient. It's more of a spiritual connection, that I am describing, not a scientific one.
But that's my point of view..... i'll clean it with water and sea salt and they I'll use it !!!!!!Love that photo, Florence. It reminds me of Joni Mitchell's lyric, "We are stardust/We are golden/We are billion year old carbon."